Update: Simple 5687-based preamp


 

 

Since the day I put up the Simple 5687 preamp on my website, I have been overwhelmed by the response! So many have approached me and so many have initiated their rites to tube DIY! Some of their baptism of fire was easy, while some had a bit more trouble, but overall, no one has yet written to me claiming they don't like the preamp. This is great!

Well, if you have built your 5687 preamp, write to me and I'll put your work here.

 

Waily, Ang Mo Kio, Singapore

 

 

Well done, Waily!

Waily is using Marantz CD63, Roksan solid state power amp and Paradigm Studio Reference speakers.

Waily can be reached at waily at yahoo dot com.

Hi Yeo,

After weeks of tweaking, I finally concluded that those values that U used in the project is very very near to ideal(best) what a 5687 should sound. Maybe my preference for good sound is quite similar to yours, in expecting what a good, neutral sound on system should have. Or maybe my gear should match with this kind of sound.

Here I would like to kow tow to you as I presumed that u've probably tried up quite a number of different values/ config before concluding and sharing this project with us and other diy'ers.

Initially I thought that this humble preamp has'nt reach the full potential yet, hence the word TWEAK comes into my mind. But then, those original values definately has to stay in order for me to really enjoy all my favourite albums/cd. Of course, there is room for improvement, but does it really justify the total cost of the project, or the degree of improvement- branded coupling caps (hovland, multicaps, etc), black gate skz/wkz sound of music power caps, dact stepped attenuators, pure thicko silver hook up cable, lundahl or other expensive choke/ transformer, and much more parts. Ok, I might do that when I am very loaded and doesn't feel the pain of thrashing/ keeping those that sound unsuitable to me.;-)

Remember the 100u+100u, I just took it off and in place back the 50u+50u. The smoothness, creamy voice has came back, dynamic is a bit slower - u can get to hear the singer voice extension very well. The 100u might sound much dynamic with Mohamad Ali punches in his fancy footwork and that of course, will very soon send u to K.O. (definately ngam those ah beng in honda civic with the windscreen wind down). One words, I can't take it anymore. Out u go. The opposite of things happen with the 25u+25u, it makes everything slow motion and dull, lifeless.

Anyway, the 390ohm dubilier has found some use in this preamp..I put it in the grid resistor for fun and suprisingly it sound much better than the Riken but different values that I've tried (100,150,1K). I can safely said that this resistor ngam ngam roll off those tiring highs and the loss in sonic clarity is negligible. (of course, it cure my power amp shutdown too).

To summarise, the only difference my circuit to you is only this grid resistor, 250K ohm alps pot, some cheap, thick solid core copper hookup cable, S$15 per pair bronze female RCA from Well Audio, pair of Welwyn 20K for the plate(well), others is riken (well) and 1000u cerafine cathode caps that i found it brings more mid and lower bass than the 470u (who knows I might revert bacck to 470 in future??;-), and of course this will varies from system to system.

 

    Thanks for your input Waily! Well, the circuit has been optimized by vt4c. I just muck around with the power supply. : ) That said, glad you like it! I hope you'll be encouraged to try more DIY projects in future!

 

 

Mike, Johor Bahru, Malaysia.

 

Mike here has done a fabulous job! Congrats! Big endbells to cover those butt naked ugly 30H Hammond chokes.

Mike could be reached at bina_tang at yahoo dot com.

 

Verdict - DIYParadise's 5687 Preamp on Echoloft
« on: 03/25/03 at 12:15:37 »

I've just completed Yeo's 5687 preamp.
It sounds great. Very extended high end with nice firm bass.
A definite improvement over my tube buffer running Mullards.
A greater degree of clarity & depth.

Plugged it into my AV amp CD-In as it didn't have a Pre-In. My amp didn't complain & there wasn't any complication in regards to gain. The 5687 preamp can go very loud but more importantly it goes very clean as well.

Followed Yeo's instructions to a T ... & there was no audible hum or hiss at all on my Diamond 8.1s. I was initailly worried as I felt my Hammond chassis was a little on the small side.

I hope you guys don't mind the shameless plug ... anyone keen on tubes but have no idea (like me ) should give this project a try. Can be very cheap to build depending on your choice of parts. Check it out at  http://www.diyparadise.com/simplepreamp.html

Thanks to Yeo & Waily for their help ... very much obliged.
   


 

 

Thanks Mike for your endorsement! 

 

 

Xavier Goh, Petaling Jaya, Malaysia

 

Ha! Another Simple 5687 comes to the fore!
I like this. Non-boutique parts at all! Okay, just one Black Gate cap but cheap/common parts everywhere. Well, you can still hear its beauty. This, to me, is the mark of a good design. Kudos to vt4c again. Congrats on a successful project!

Hi Yeo,

All parts are non-audiophiles grade except cathode cap (blackgate). I will upgrade it with adding in another choke with FT cap (awaiting your supply). The sound was transparent & the mid was good compared with my existing SS preamp. Source from Marantz CD6000OSE, 5687 preamp, JVC 4-channel power amp & out from Revolver floor standing speaker. I would expect better sound with additional 10H choke & FT cap. The holes beside the transformer & choke are for this purposes. I am using DC filament supply for 5687 tubes & with additional resistor at the grid input.

Thanks.

BR,
Xavier

 

 

 

Billy Florentino, a Filipino lost in Singapore

 

Well, well, well. This Simple 5687 has a more "modern" aesthetic feel.
The handles and plumbing bobs do add a touch of "IKEA" to it. Ha ha! Well done Billy! Well done!

Hi Yeo,
Finally, I finished my first ever project 5687 preamp. It's pretty lovely sound. The look that matches the sound.

The Look :
Those cabinet handles makes it look very cool. The chokes, I sprayed black to match the chasis. The blue light makes it very high end.

The Sound :
First, I was bothered about the hummm although it can't be heard when listening. It did improved when I did the star gounding.
It's true that this machine is very dynamic and fast. The vocal is also great after changing the cathode cap to 1000uF (thanks to Wally for this). The extension of the highs are amazing. There are a lot of little sounds that brings out with this preamp.

Further Improvements :
I know there still a lot of room for improvement like finding the right value for the grid resistor, DC filament supply, trying tung-sol 5687 etc...
Thanks man for all your help.. More power to you..
Regards,
Billy

 

 

Come on! If you have built this project, send your pics to me!

 

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